What Veterans Think About Republicans Voting NO In The PACT Act
Real Comments From Reddit’s Largest Veterans Group
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Keeping our finger on the pulse of what Veterans think about current issues, like the Promise to Address Comprehensive Toxins Act, or PACT Act, keeps us in touch with what they need. Here’s some of the unedited comments posted the day after the new broke. Here’s a blog post on the news event of the PACT Act getting voted down by Republican senators.
All 7 Democrat veterans voted yes (Kelly, Market, Peters, Reed, Blumenthal, Duckworth, and Carper). 9 of 10 Republican veterans voted no (Marshall, Sullivan, Inhofe, Ernst, McConnell, Scott, Wicker, Young, and Cotton). 3 of those no voters have OIF and/or OEF service. Even Republican veterans hate veterans (and before you fuckers bring it up, regardless of party they’re pretty much all former officers).
Crazy but there is some just flat out lies from people in this thread. Hell I would even question people that come in here to Gaslight some if they are even veterans. As they aren’t really here to help just here to try to paint one side horribly to win an election. Here is the main objection https://youtu.be/PPPeW1kpZY8 The issue is the way it’s structured allows to cram unchecked billions through a budget loop hole. So the people are using vets to eventually cram through other unchecked spending. Glass half full, there is already 400 billion allocated for burn pit treatment. Hopefully the people trying to play games can Lobby their side to just submit a bill that is not some scheme to leave an opening for more spending not currently outlined in the bill. If they truly cared that is what they would be doing.
With all due respect, that’s BS, and I’ll tell you why.
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This bill makes burn pit related illnesses and conditions presumptive conditions. That would make thousands of veterans suffering from these conditions eligible for care and support who are currently not due to the limited time window.
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These folks voted for it a couple weeks ago. The bill already moved through the Senate, and the House. It goes back to the house of origin mostly as a formality to re-approve the reconciled bill.
You know what changed in a couple weeks? The projections regarding the “red wave” that was supposed to sweep Congress. For the first time, it appears that the Democrats might hold the Senate, and the Republicans are desperate to prevent any win for the Democrats. This is a purely cynical political play, and thousands of veterans have just been sacrificed for nothing except cynical, dirty, low down politics of the worst kind. But people like you will always be around to apologize, gaslight, and spin on their behalf. It’s disgusting.
They love playing both sides when veterans are the ones getting fucked. Wouldn’t expect any less from an account named after the racist/homophobic emails.
“Joni Kay Ernst is an American former military officer” – Voted No, How fucking dare she. What veteran votes no on this?
The agent orange act wasn’t passed for Vietnam veterans until 1991. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_Orange_Act_of_1991
If you want to check how your particular Senators voted, here’s the Senate.gov vote tally: https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1172/vote_117_2_00272.htm
*Edit – Holy hell – This is not the separate reconciliation bill. I keep seeing that conflated to give cover to no votes, but that’s a separate animal. Read folks. READ.
Wow shocking Burr and Tillis voted No? But I got am email saying Tillis loves vets … fucking scumbags.
I will never understand how people buy that the Republican part is pro veteran when they consistently vote against shit that will benefit veterans.
Never fails. Post 9/11 GI bill, probably one of the best thing to happen to veterans… yup, you guessed it GOP against it. John McCain lost me after that one.
Republicans are Pro Making Veterans. Once we’re home they don’t give a fuck unless we can be used for a photo op.
Republicans are Pro Making Veterans. Once we’re home they don’t give a fuck unless we can be used for a photo op.
They didn’t even give a fuck about us while we were in. I can’t tell you how often we had to suspend training because Bush was flying above us on the way to his ranch. Or the field op we cancelled because he needed a backdrop for a speech. Or the shitty armor he sent us there with. Or the bullshit lies that got in into that war in the first place.
Here’s the source of these comments.
What Is a Burn Pit?
A burn pit is an area devoted to open-air combustion of trash. The use of burn pits was a common waste disposal practice at military sites outside the United States, such as in Iraq and Afghanistan. Smoke from these pits contained substances that may have short- and long-term health effects, especially for those who were exposed for long periods or those more
prone to illness such as individuals with pre-existing asthma or other lung or heart conditions.
Waste products in burn pits include, but are not limited to: chemicals, paint, medical and human waste, metal/aluminum cans, munitions and other unexploded ordnance, petroleum and lubricant products, plastics and Styrofoam, rubber, wood, and discarded food. Burning waste in pits can create more hazards compared to controlled high-temperature burning—like in a commercial incinerator.
The VA fact sheet on burn pits says veteran burn pit exposures to high levels of specific, individual chemicals that may be present in burn pit smoke have been shown to cause long-term effects, in some cases, on: skin, respiratory system, eyes, liver, kidneys, central nervous system, reproductive system, cardiovascular system, peripheral nervous system, and gastrointestinal tract.
The IOM study – supplied by this group – found these health effects associated with five or more chemicals it detected at Joint Base Balad in Iraq:
- Neurologic effects and reduced central nervous system function
- Liver toxicity and reduced liver function
- Cancer (stomach, respiratory, and skin cancer; leukemia; and others)
- Respiratory toxicity and morbidity
- Kidney toxicity and reduced kidney function
- Blood effects (anemia and changes in various cell types)
- Cardiovascular toxicity and morbidity, and
- Reproductive and developmental toxicity.
Here’s the roll call vote from yesterday. The one Democrat NO vote was cast by House Leader Chuck Schumer. The reason for that was so that he could recall the vote for a later day if something exactly like this happened.
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